martes, 31 de mayo de 2011

La cacharrería


Buenos días teatreos,

Como sabéis tengo intención de presentarme este domingo con una Affinity para la LCL y tras unos cuantos retoques esta es mi estructura final.

Espero vuestras criticas y opiniones para dejarlo perfecto, en el punto que más necesito vuestra ayuda es en el SB.

Os agradezco por adelantado la ayuda :D y no os cortéis un pelo.



Creatures [22]

4 Arcbound Ravager
3 Etched Champion
4 Frogmite
4 Memnite
3 Myr Enforcer
4 Signal Pest

Planeswalkers [3]

3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas

Spells [20]

4 Cranial Plating
4 Dispatch
2 Enlightened Tutor
3 Mox Opal
3 Springleaf Drum
4 Thoughtcast

Lands [15]

4 Ancient Den
2 Blinkmoth Nexus
1 Darksteel Citadel
4 Seat of the Synod
4 Vault of Whispers

SIDEBOARD

3 Annul
2 Diabolic Edict
2 Engineered Plague
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Pithing Needle
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Thoughtseize

59 comentarios:

  1. Ja t'has fet amb els Dispatch? Quina velocitat!

    Jo fotria fos on fos Enlightened Tutor.

    Vaya botiga d'antiguitats t'has muntat...!!! ;)

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  2. Ja porta 2 tutors de main xD.

    No se gaire bé vs que vas fotut, però vs merfolk+goblins tens bon pairing. Així que si t'has de posar algo extra de side... fora les plagas xD. Però bueno sempre van bé.

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  3. Dons si, em van tocar 2 a la prerelease i els altres dos entre tots els sobres que vam obrir a la lliga.

    Els enlightened ja hi han 2 a la llista, realment van de conya.

    El tema de les plagas tens raó, normalment amb tribals tinc bon pairing i realment les tinc posades per inèrcia d'altres deck. En cas de substituir-les que em recomaneu ?

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  4. No m'hi havia fixat que estaven al main... normalment és carta de side, però clar, aquí no...!

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  5. Un canvi que veix obligat son els 3 Annul per 3 Spell Pierce, que contrarresten més coses per el mateix cost.

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  6. O tb no poden contrarrestar res xD. Els duu vs jittes i coses fotudes rotllo humility, puente engañoso, confinements... q són pràcticament instant gg. Encara que affinity acostuma a matar ràpid. Que porti el que li agradi més xD, jo tinc 2 spellpierce per deixar.

    Sobre les plagas, podries canviar-les per 1 thopter foundry i 1 sword of the meek. Així vs landstill i control brainless.

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  7. Per parts, al main et falta un drum, miris com to miris si no surts de acceleradors no fots prou pressió.
    Myr enforcer... Abans posava master of etherium que guanya partides sol.
    El memmite va bé, però ara que t'has tret el vermell per rascar les ultimes vides, aniria segur amb ornitopteros el fet de volar tant per evasió com per poder bloquejar em sembla millor, quan duies glavanics tenia certa lògica, ara ja no ;).
    Els dispatch els baixaria a 3 per poder fer els canvis que te comentat, en vols veure un durant la partida, però tampoc el necessites a la mà inicial i amb els toughcast crec q el podries arribar a trobar, el 4rt el posaria al side.

    Al side faria -2 plagas -1 relic -1diabolic -1 piting, per possar el 4rt annul, una tormods, el dispach +1 duress/descarte + 1 antigrave.

    P.S. annul contrarresta energy flux, no nomes s'ha de quedar sino que n'hi ha de haver 4.

    Encara q el q diu sauce de fundi+espada de side no esta malament

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  8. pots portar una factoria de mishra, o poses algun acelerador

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  9. Mai es donarà el cas en que li plantin un Energy Flux amb 2 terras untapped, bueno potser si, pero aleshores ja parlariem de turn 5 quan el Lemin ja li haruia fotut un repaso (suposant que l'altre s'espera, xq lu més lògic és jugarlo tan bon punt tens 3 lands)a part que avans de comentar-li lo del Pierce m'he mirat un bon llistat d'Affinitys amb els seus respectius Sides, no ho he dit xq si xD. I per el tema Master of Etherium ami m'agrada molt, és un lord que guanya partides ell sol (sense contar els removals que es menjarà xD), encara que el Etched Champion amb Cranial Plating o amb comptadors modular del Ravager temta molt també, bé això ja és escollir quin t'agrada més, xq no et puc dir quin és el millor ja que m'agraden els dos per parts iguals XD.

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  10. o un Lion's Eye Diamond
    agregas 3 manas per un descartar una carta qualsevol
    i per acabar un vial, i una forjamir

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  11. EtiCaraSoft: Abans de tot gràcies per tots els consells ;)
    Reflexionant una mica amb el teu comentari he afegit un springlefdrum mes, he tret els memnite per els ornitopther i he tret un dispatch, els memnite cada cop mes em trobava que s'em quedaben inútils i em deixaben inútils a les pest per no poder atacar amb ells. Per la part del drum tens raó hauria de baixar sempre un accelerador al primer torn.
    Del comentari del Myr no ho tinc gaire clar, tens raó quan dius que el Master guanya sol però també em talla l'embestida d'afinitat i entra en conflicte al 3er torn amb l'etched... miraré de provar-ho però no ho tinc clar.

    Per la part del SB veig correcte treure les plagues, cambiar una relic per una tormod però el diabolic i les piting... no m'agrada desfer-me d'ells, els diabolic per bichos grosos com progenitus, emrakul o Blightsteel Colossus, i les pitting les veig molt necessàries per prescindir d'una.

    Ricard:
    Gràcies per els consells tmb. Tens raó amb els spell pierce em poden ajudar en mes casos que amb els anular, son mes polivalents però en el meu cas veig millor l'anular, un exemple seria si em treuen un pernicious pagant 3 i deixant 2 per sacrificar, amb spell pierce em menjo els mocs i aguanto un torn mes, amb l'altre adeu pernicious.

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  12. Ni el Lion's Eye ni el vial ni forjamyr, ni Mishra Factory serveixen en aquest deck.

    PS: Si el LED fes el que tú dius que fa, valdria uns euros menys que el Black Lotus.
    PPS: Estigue't pel què has d'estar ara, que és a l'institut, o sinó m'enfadaré i molt.

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  13. Si et surt el dubte de master o etched clarament et dire que primer etched i al torn de després master ;) Els annul fan més o menys el mateix q el pierce pero hi ha casos que et gunayen directe i és millor un hard counter q un soft counter i que t'ho puguin pagar.

    El LED nomes serveix per combo i ja em diràs perque li seveix donar-se 3 mana si no te res per jugar ja que sa descartat la ma.
    El vial s'ha mes q testejat i s'ha demostrat q relentitza la baralla massa, a més des del mox opal ja va quedar desfassat per a aquesta baralla.
    El forjamyr es un buñol de carta per legacy, no dóna affinitat, no es artefacto i a sobre per treuren benefici has de pagar.
    Jordi quan posis alguna carta i plantegis alguna innovació (factoria de mishra, forjamyr, LED) no testejada en el deck intenta raonar una mica el q pot aportar ja que sino això podria convertir-se en un passa palabra de cartes de magic ;)

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  14. has provat el diablillo de nova pyrexia en el slot del pest¿? es un 1/1 vola lifelink (aka con cranial me forro) i es baixa per incolor + 2 vides al principi i negre al final i amb el trezzeret es un pinaco amb lifelink.

    Tb he vist gent q juga amb la nova polilla enlloc de la vella per convertirla en 5/5 amb trezzeret, com un altre finisher/clock de dos torns corre tant com un progenitus ;)

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  15. Bona tarda Etic,

    L'he estat provant un dies per el MWS i va bé però tampoc em sorpren massa, també el veig dependent del cranial i no m'agrada gaire. Merci ;)

    Les polilles també les vaig estar provant al quan va sortir mirrodin sitiado i em vaig donar compte de que o ve vas a matar a contadors de verins o mates per vides, si vas a les dues coses no acabes fent res, també el trobo dependent del cranial i tezzeret.

    A tot això ara que ja tinc mig definit el deck final em toca arreplegar una mica jaja, algú disposa de un ornitopter i cuatre anulars per casa ?, ho posaré al xat tmb.

    Merci!

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  16. Jo tinc ornitopters, de m10, de 5a i de revised.

    PS: El de 5a ed. costa 1 colorless de baixar. XD
    Si algú et deixa 1, ja tens playset

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  17. pero no te aceleradors no???? no portes els mirs amb affinity??? si no els portes son obligatoris

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  18. Jordi coneixes la baralla affinity de legacy? passat per TC decks i dona-li un cop d'ull.

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  19. no jo conec l'altra no et fot xd
    Jo vaig jugar contra una al GP de Barcelona

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  20. Jordi deixa de dir bestieses i pensa't una mica les coses abans de dir-les.

    Per donar consells molesta't en tenir informació de la baralla i com diu Etic argumenta les cartes amb un perquè.

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  21. Springleaf Drum + Mox Opal = acceleradors
    Myr enforcer = Myr amb afinitat xD

    www.magiccards.info -> Jordi aqui pots buscar les cartes que no coneixis pel nom.

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  22. Jordi, si vas a anar al GP de Barcelona i vas donar un cop d'ull per les taules i les rondes guanyadores, estic segur que no vas mirar gaire bé. Com ha dit EtiCaraSoft, abans de donar una opinió sobre una carta a l'aire, primer mira el deck i conèix-lo. I si no el conèixes, doncs ens ho preguntes i, amb molt de gust, t'ensenyem. No ens agrada que qüestionis tan a la lleugera a lemin, que segur que quan ell va començar a jugar a magic, tú encara no sabies parlar.

    No vull que t'enfadis, Jordi, només vull que comprenguis que són una comunitat on la humilitat és una de les virtuts més importants, i no volem que ningú en tingui carència.

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  23. Una pregunta els altres tutors estan prohibits o restringits?

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  24. mmm el verd i el blanc són els unics q es poden fer servir, em sembla, el mystic (blau) està banned des de fa un any aprox i els negres obvious ja fa bastant de temps. de negre em sembla que pots fer servir el q té temerario q es el que fan servir a The Epic Storm. De vermell l'unic que em sona es el burning wish per buscar coses al side durant la partida

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  25. ania un artefacte ke tans sols et fa jugar amb la side, si portas algun lighnit o alguna cosa aixi i el altre li keda poca vida pots guanya

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  26. Mercy carafino!, el tutor negre que dius tu ja se qui nes, en tenia 2, em fot per el blau, pero es lo que ay.

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